Probably not an accident, that Jesus was not from the tribe of Levi. Very interesting..

It is so easy to think we have to perform an "official" mission or task within the structure of "the church" when really serving Christ is doing little day by day tasks that meet the needs of someone.

In my recent healing process I have begun to learn to be a "receiver" of these little mission tasks and not necessarily only from "my own church family." People have run errands, brought meals, cleaned the commode, changed the bed, vacuumed, washed dishes, mowed called, emailed and sent cards and transported me to appointments.

These are all necessary and appreciated and very meaningful "missions" for which those folks may never get recognized in a mission trip photo. And they are opportunities that likely will come into our lives more frequently than a missions "trip."

Now I am not against a trip. I've been on them, led them and worked in a missions organization. Peter and John weren't headed toward helping the lame beggar, but when his need came in front of them, they met it with what they had to offer. It just is important that we recognize true mission for what it is and what we say around GUM so often: be the hands and feet of Jesus and change one life at a time.

The bottom line is that serving is doing what we can do, where we are needed, when the situation presents itself. Being on the receiving end of this active mission has been very helpful in my faith life growth and my understanding of lifetstyle missions.

The other piece of mission often overlooked, is realizing the huge importance of our time praying for all those who are the "do-ers" whether on a group mission, or stuffing envelopes or running a simple errand.

Rev. Slaughter,
I understand and agree with what you say. It seems convenient that you have built up your church membership and buildings before coming to this perspective. It seems easy to me to make these comments from your position. I would challenge you to leave Ginghamsburg, take your new revivalist perspective (which I believe is a good one) and use it in a church that has a $27,000 budget. Your experience in that place could truly influence and transform other ministries (with the assumption it develops as you believe it would).

If not that, then tell me how you would rewrite your book, "Spiritual Entrepreneurs" to reflect this new perspective.

I'll be interested to view your response. God be with you.

Hi Mike. I am not discounting much of what we have done at GUM including what I have written in Spiritual Entrepreneurs. We would not have been able to have invested 4.4 million dollars in Dafur over the last 5 years or start new intercity ministries. It would have been impossible to be feeding 1500 each week through our food pantries. I am advocating a missional vs program centric focus of ministry as well as one that continues to be lay driven. The 7 movements that I advocate for in my new book: Change The World-Reclaiming The message And Mission Of Jesus, does identify some misdirections that I got caught up in the 90's but none of the missteps were such that they couldn't be fairly quickly corrected. You will also notice that I advocate minimizing brick and maximizing mission- I didn't say eliminate brick. We have 15 worship opportunities each week so that we don't have to build a sanctuary or larger spaces. God bless, Mike

Thanks for responding. Having read "Spiritual Entrepreneurs" many years ago, it remains a very formative book for me. The church I serve is in that challenging place of just over 250 in worship with limited, part-time staff. Being "missional" / Kingdom-focused is an essential part of who we are and who we are becoming. I am challenged by your tweets and posts and also by our need for space to disciple those who come. I just wonder how your steps might have been different back at this stage with this new sense of mission. I guess I hope for insight in that area because that's where we are.

Thanks again for letting me have this conversation. I'd love to have a cup of coffee with you one day and have one in person.

Keep pushing back the darkness, Mike

Mike - I so appreciate your reminder to us that our first allegiance is to Christ and not to politics, power or the pursuit of my agenda. Last week we read through Daniel in our Transformation Journal and I was struck that in such a politically charged environment, Daniel and his friends were able to keep their integrity before God without demonizing those with whom they disagreed. Daniel's ability to be an influence under 3 different pagan kings shows us that when we keep our focus on the priorities of God it comes with staying power. Kings, Kingdoms, governments, politics, policies and agendas will come and go but those whose priority is the Lord will endure forever.

Dear Mike,
I am horrified at the way politics are played out in our country. I am disgusted, appalled and sometimes speechless. I have been asking myself where are the people of God? I concur with your post that God does not call us to violence or inciting violence. However, I do think He calls us to speak out against sin and there's a lot to speak out against in government as I see it. I try to hold fast to the idea that we are not wrestling against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of darkness of this world and against spritual wickedness in high places. I have no doubt that some people in leadership in this country and others are being lead by a spirit different from the Spirit of God. But I also know that God is ultimately in control and I am to follow His lead in all things and to not act on my own volition.
We all need to be in prayer for our country for a house divided (and this nation is) will fall.

AMEN AND AMEN! PREACH IT BROTHER!

Great blog! I too have been so saddened to see how people are reacting to politics in general lately. It is embarassing to see what christians are saying about other people at this time. This is such a great reminder for us right now!

Mike, thanks for challenging us, as is your gift, to think beyond partisan politics. People are passionate about their country, and that is part of our strength as a nation. However, we as Christians have a higher calling and a higher allegiance. The best way that we can serve our country is to serve our Lord Jesus. He holds the answers to our problems, both national and personal. Alexis De Tocqueville said "America is great, because America is good". I think we need to make sure that we are doing all we can to make America "good".

Amen! I am so tired of seeing people with differing views being so disrepectful of one another and accusing one another of being uninformed on "the facts" while so many seek information only from sources with whom they already agree. 2 Timothy 4 speaks of a time to come when people will gather around them teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear, to suit their own desires. I can't help but to think that we are there.
I have experienced a riff in my family over politics in the past year and I see the potential for it to take a toll on my cell group, not because some disagree with one another, but because there is a lack of repect for opposing views. We need to recognize that our paths in life and our faith walks are all different leading to differing opinions. Dispite falling on different sides of the aisle, we are one church, one body and should not be attacking other members of the body.

Mike, you are right on target. To respectfully disagree is becoming a lost art in our nation, particularly in the political arena. Questioning ideas is healthy, attacking people with whom we disagree is not. Flourishing organizations, whether government, churches, schools, or corporations, promote divergent thinking on the road to sound decisions and policies. This creates a safe environment for all voices to be heard and ideas explored. Offering positive solutions (Daniel with the diet)is a model for healing human differences. Yes, Christians must offer the alternative way. You are keeping it real, my brother - thank you.

I believe some of the actions are a result of the mob mentality. People act so differently when they are with a group than how they would behave by themselves. I often think the only way I'm going to be the Christian woman I want to be is if God waits until I'm the only one left on earth to take me. Then for that short fleeting time when I'm alone I'll reach my peak of goodness. ugh! I happened to fly into Washington the afternoon of the 21st, and as my plane descended I could see the volume of people in the mall area gathering for the protest and I knew I wasn't going to take the metro into the city that day. Sometimes it's pretty evident what you need to steer clear of and I just had the sense that this was one of those things. But I've seen the same mentality with Christians, heck some or all of those people who were spitting or acting so harsely or who have made threats could be professed Christians. We're just as capable of ugliness whether, look at the people from the church out waste who have mean and ugly signs and yell things at the funeral processions of the military men and women who die in combat. Just as an alcholic needs liquid courage, some people can only find courage in numbers. Maybe that's an indication that your not quite on track, if the criteria for acting is to have the masses supporting you rather than the cross. I don't know but it is something to think about.

If this is truth, then who is going to tell the United Methodist General Board of Church and Society to stop being political activists and pushing their agendas? Many are leaving UMC's because of their activism. Check out methodistthinker.com

Jesus angered both the religious and the political leaders with His upside-down teachings. I don't believe we are to stick our heads in the sand and just let everything happen without taking a stand. Granted we have to do it with the love of Jesus, but also the justice of a Holy God. Jesus was not a meek, mild milk-toast! He spoke out boldly for righteousness and truth. When the church as a whole, sits back and allows an unrighteous society to take over--then we may very well, as did the Jews, find ourselves being exiled to the "Babylon" of today.

I agree with Kim Marts... Very well said.

“Anger can be righteous when the displeasure is aimed at the same things that God is displeased with, when it makes demands that God makes, and when it sets out to destroy those things that God opposes. Most anger is sinful anger, however, because we are
concerned about our own interest – not God’s.”
-Dr. Jim Berg

Obviously I don't believe that God would approve of the actions of few during these protests... But I don't believe God would want us to "ho-hum" our feelings of discontent with the poor morals exhibited by our elected officials either...

Jesus told us to pray "....... your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven....". This brothers and sisters is not a prayer for some millenial event but for the kingdom of God to be presently incarnate through those who call Jesus lord and savior. " For if you forgive men their trespasses your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses." I sense nothing of this tolerance/temperance in the rancor of the current political debate regardless of the subject. Thank you Mike for calling the church out on it !

I agree. We need to speak out against evil and injustice in all its forms. In this sense the gospel would call us to be political (i.e. working against genocide in Darfur). Righteous anger was expressed by Jesus in clearing the Temple (interesting to note that Jesus' strongest confrontations were with religious folk and not secular society). That has something to do with us dealing with the logs in our own eyes before we attempt to remove the speck from others. We are not called to be indifferent or uninvolved, just to demonstrate ways of confrontation that are radically different from the world's.To love as Jesus loves!

Hey Mike once again thanks for speaking the truth even when it's not popular. I too have been sadden by the inhumane incidents that have occured during the recent passing of the health care bill. Far too long we as followers of Jesus have atempted to paint Jesus either red or blue..when I reality the only red that Jesus wore was the blood that he shed for ALL people. So now is the time for all authentic followers of Jesus to stand up and put down their political agendas and for once live out the true meaning of Mattew 25:40. So as we journey toward resurrection weekend I pose a question to all who read this; is Jesus really Lord of the ALL or really Lord of your political party? Maybe we should examine oursleves before we shout this weekend, Christ is Risen!

Keep it up Mike.
I have to say that I try to keep my politics to myself. I am a wierd breed. I have always believed that God came first, and that righteous choices come before politics, or community loyalties. Sometimes this has gotten me some odd brandings. Down here in Texas I try to keep these ideas to myself but once in a while I get to plant the idea that maybe the whole concept of "red" or "blue" or even "America First" isn't what Christ wanted. Can one make the arguement that we are made from clay that likes to clump together? If so then does God make good things out of clumpy clay or clay that will hold together?
"red" and "blue" hasn't gotten us anywhere, and we know what the scripture says about knowing them by their fruits.
I plan on being as "fruity" as I can. Of course I am sure that phrase will touch off a whole new can of worms, but if it is fruit that Christ calls for then it is fruit that I shall bear.
God bless you.

Pilate refused to condemn Jesus but the hysterical crowd insisted on his execution. Talk about a deep cultural and political divide. Our political environment is nothing compared to what Jesus was dealing with; wouldn’t you agree? I do not see the point continuing this demonization but if they do, all views need to be fairly represented which they never seem to be. This media/political/right/left thing is not worth following in my opinion. We are never going to convince the left or right to change their core beliefs. What does concern me is the national debt ratio to GDP and how Jesus Christ made the commitment to save our souls. (Not necessarily in that order) We all need to pay attention to what matters and ignore the ugliness from all those who continue to spew it. Elections have consequences and so do not following what Jesus taught us.

It could not be more clear and you reiterated it this evening. If Jesus is Lord Caeser isn't. it is not about red or blue truth. It is about THE truth...the gospel. The truth (gospel) may not be the easiest or popular way, but it is the ONLY way. I applaud your "radical" belief and continue to support your and Carolyn's effort in challenging and moving us out of the church and in to the world.
God Bless.

Regina

Personally I believe we have an obligation to speak out in a respectful manner when our political leaders act in non biblical ways such as support for abortions and gay marriage. many church leaders were strangely quiet before the last presidential election which I believe led to a majority of Christians voting for candidates that hold many non biblical views. The Catholic church did speak out on the health care abortion funding issue and were blasted by the media for getting involved in politics. I for one will continue to speak out against the governments involvement in issues where they can further destroy the morale fabric of the country i love. I can do this with respect, I believe those accused of using inappropriate language are a small minority and the quotes of "reload" and "eliminate" were taken totally out of context.

I agree Jim that often we should respectfully speak out on issues. I don't want that to stop, it's a right and a responsibility. However I don't know about what some political people said being taken out of context. I think for most of us we can figure out what they meant but there are a few people that will take those words verbatim. I feel those in politics have as much right to speak their minds as anyone but they should have the "ability" to be able to do so in a way that ignites healthy debate and not dangerous reactions. It seems people are consumed with politics to the point that it's getting almost out of hand. I get a little frightened that our political agendas are overshadowing and coming before our relationship with God. It concerns me. People are so upset about healthcare and I understand that it's because it affects them directly, but I didn't see much conversation anywhere about the little girl that hung herself in Massachusetts after being bullied even while school officials were present the bullying continued or the 15 year old who sold her 7 year old step sister for sex in New Jersey. Even though the police say the area was under surveillance and they've been preparing for a crackdown which was finally done after the little girls gang rape. In my mind these events are creeping up on us more frequently because we're only concerned with what directly affects us today.

Suzanne
Exactly what is going wrong. People accept what others are saying without checking the context. Because a politician may use these words does not make the the intent malicious. Without actually hearing what was said or reading a transcript, it is dangerous to make conclusions about intent. If a politician was talking about eliminating bed bugs from apartments we would not conclude that as malicious unless of course we were bed bugs. Reload to a hunter means to get ready for the next opportunity. to a hunter that's a good thing. To someone wishing to demean the speaker the word can be assumed to mean something else. Let us not judge without full knowledge of circumstances.We too easily accept second hand interpretations. Political parties rely on our tendency to do just that.I believe that is what Mike was doing in his message.

What I beleive is this Jim. When you or I hear someone say It's time to reload, we think in the line of "Oh ok" and that's that. We don't think anymore about it. But there are people in this world that don't have healthy minds. The people who kill abortion doctors or run their planes into government buildings etc, that don't hear what we hear. When they hear comments like that, it fuels their angst. They are so caught up in a cause or their situation, even though they are often great causes, that they no longer can think from a clear perspective. Last September I accepted a job, it was a promotion with better pay and benefits but I'm realizing I'm now working in a really really toxic environment. Yesterday I was caught up in it all and I generally keep stuff inside anyway. I was allowing what was going on around me to just eat me up. I was overwhelmed, not with the work load but with the situation. But I am healthy enough to know I need to work it out in positive ways, I made myself meet with my trainer after work and she worked me harder than ever, my muscles were still trembling when I got home, then I took my dog to the reserve where we walked in the woods in an area where people don't usually walk and we found a place on a hill to sit quietly and listen to the birds and quiet my mind. It was bliss.

AMEN!

These are all passionate views and I appreciate that. Suzanne, Godspeed to your son and here’s praying for a safe return from Afghanistan. This has to be a difficult time for your entire family. One of the issues I have is how we make demons of those who have different views. If a person speaks figuratively, it would be academically dishonest to interpret those words as literal. For example; President Obama’s chief of staff Rahm Emanuel has been quoted speaking figuratively which we all do. He made the following statements; “you don’t take a knife to a gun fight” while running for office in Chicago and more recently he made this comment and performed this action while speaking to democrats about republicans; “they and their policies are dead” and he took a knife and vigorously stabbed a table. I don’t think the chief of staff had any intention to engage someone in a gun fight or stabbing anyone with a knife. To think otherwise would be inconsiderate. We have to be critical thinkers in these matters but all should be treated fairly and we need to be honest in our interpretation, literally. By the way, violent crime trends are declining in America. The media will garner ratings by reporting on violence however, the trends are heading in the right direction.

"We have to be critical thinkers in these matters but all should be treated fairly " I agree. Thanks for your prayers for my boy. I actually heard from him the day I posted and he had just returned. Today i received an e-mail and he's not having to go out for a few days. I'm happy! Peace!

Thanks so much for your wise and insightful words. We must continually pray that God's spirit of love indwells and empowers our thoughts as we endeavor to walk the Walk. God Bless.

It is true that we are to first seek the Kingdom of God. It would also follow that we are to be sober and diligent in our efforts to enhance Gods kingdom in this world. We are charged do to what is right and pray never ceasing. When you separate politics from religion, we fail to address the very issues that govern man's actions and moral values and responsibilities. This country was founded upon very strict Christian and Jewish principles. We simply can not ignore soft tyranny and abuse of power because we follow Christ. I don't believe He would have us sit back and do nothing but wait for him to intercede.There is an injustice taking place in the leadership of America that is rotting our very core and foundation. It effects our everyday lives, the ability to give charitabely and forces government controlled humanitarianism. Where did Jesus say give to the government so they can distribute according to their dictates? Anyone who can not see through what is happening to our country is burying their head in the sand and not helping fellow citizens and members of our world family.

It certainly can be frustrating to watch destructive things happening to our country. I think we can speak truth without being angry even when it may be God's anger we are feeling. We still have to express it appropriately. Christians are involved because our values are being addressed and attacked not by blue or red, but by unspiritual people. It doesn't mean we've always handled things right as Christians. Certainly we haven't, but that cannot be used as an excuse for leaders to enact destructive policy. We think of this as primarily our country, but it isn't really. It was an experiment started over two hundred years ago. It's not going very well, and instead of really analyzing those reasons, and offering real, applicable solutions, many are reacting with fear, and anger.

Motivation is a scarce commodity. I know I could use more of it. I'm glad to know about Laurie.

You mention left or right, blue or red. Where I live it is between Baptist or Methodist. People see me and call me a yankee methodist. We even have churches across the street from one another of different races, same religion, how sick is that. People need to look at Jesus, he had dinner with tax collectors. We need to love all people. The bickering amoung the church people needs to come to an end and leave it at the CROSS. There is plenty of work to be done before Christ takes us home. Smile GOD LOVES all PEOPLE.

Mike, I just posted that Kempis quote to my facebook page b/c it has been the theme of my year! God is teaching me to stop telling others what to do with their freedom and to look more closely at what I am doing with mine. I find that I get off the narrow road when I am consumed with what others are doing or saying. Our actions reflect the road on which we travel and some may choose a different route. I am going to stay the course because I have found life there and I have grown closer to Jesus there. I do not understand the disconnect between justice and Jesus. All I know is that if I don't actively pursue social justice as a follower of the God of justice, then I am complicit in social injustice. My eyes have been opened, and I refuse to close them. Thanks for being a constant wake-up call and for cheering us on.

What's interesting about this is that I wonder how many people become bottled up with their faith because of this cultural Christianity. I see this in my church and intentionally joined a sunday school class that shakes things up and plans a large number of missions. I realized that without my "disciple" group, which is my "Walk to Emmaus" reunion group, I might have never have grown the way that I have. I always found it interesting in the 2000 election the quote "I don't KNOW that god is on our side, I pray they we are on his."
I also look around and realize that Americans are taking their religious cues from secular leaders, Hollywood, and any source but the church. Sadly I worry that maybe we may have earned this.

I have only one fear especially with regard to a trip like the one pictured above. In my attempt to get footage of the journey, I'd probably seriously mess up my weave:D (At least that's what my son calls my hair). Some people simply do not have to worry about that.

Mike, you should give Rabbi Shmuley a try if you haven’t done so already. I listen to him on Sunday evenings on 77 WABC New York. Last night, he spoke about the political hot topic of the day and praised the leader of the Democratic Party for getting healthcare this far. He didn’t agree with the bill but was able to acknowledge the effort. The Rabbi certainly spoke about better options (in his view) but never once demonized the other mates.
Not to minimize what the bible teaches us in Matthew 7:13-14 but life is full of narrow and wide roads don’t you think? Becoming a doctor is a very narrow road as is becoming a Pulitzer Prize winning author or an Indy race car driver. The wide road was once described to me as a dog going from telephone pole to fire hydrant and back to the other side of the road again meandering through life with no particular mission.
Man’s best friend is finding those narrow roads and staying on them.

I am guilty as charged.
After all of the years working as a bartender when my biggest rule was to not argue politics or religion, I still somewhat do this on this blog.
Mike,I LOVED your message this weekend about not demonizing, which you have reiterated in this blog.

I interpreted this as an attack on the people I don't agree with, but I just realized that it's also an attack on my own negative views.
My 85-year-old father and I share the same political views, and if I had a nickle for every conversation we had when I referred to the other side as the devil....
gee, I'd have a lot of nickles.
Thanks again for smacking me in the face with reality.
Please keep smacking me... I need it.

I wrote this to a friend this morning and it seems to apply here. I am currently reading a book about freelance writing and in it the author tells the story of Harlan Ellison, author of numerous novels and short stories and this is the way Mr. Ellison speaks about his need to write: "There's a scene of a film called "The Red Shoes", where Moira Shearer, who was a brilliant ballerina, is talking to the ballet entrepreneur. A Blanchine kind of figure. And he says to her, "Why must you dance?" She wants to join his company, and she thinks about it a moment and then she says to him, "Why must you breathe?" And he says, "I must!" and she smiles and walks away. I didn't choose to be a writer. That's what I am." This is what I wish to one day be able to describe my Christian walk. Like each breathe I take, to be so natural and so vital to my very existence. I tend to treat my Christian walk more like an extension of who I am, rather than the core of my existance. Thankfully God has been very patiant with me. I'm not so sure of what Jesus is creating on earth but I am sure he is working on me. And thankfully so.

Anyone with any intelligence or common sense knows what Fox "News" is about.
I get a kick out of them, but also give them the credibility they deserve.

I've always appreciated Fox's rare perspective, and focus. Hidalgo stated in his article that even he isn't exactly sure what Beck's interpretation, and understanding of social or economic justice is.
There do seem to be varied views on the topic, and it seems that digging a little deeper, and asking more questions. I found Beck's comments somewhat vague, and emotionally charged which seems to be the theme these days.

Beck’s comments are at times idiotic. I’m not a big fan of the man and to be honest, I’m not a fan of Jim Wallis either. However, I have to respect Beck for having the courage to say what’s on his mind knowing full well if the ratings go down, he’s out. I have the same respect for Wallis; he’s willing to take a political/social stance regardless what the bible teaches. (Do not know much about Hidalgo)

The current political climate has spawned hatred among us. Based on most polls, there’s an incredible feeling of buyer’s remorse as related to the president and congress. These feelings generate unwise comments and thoughts.

Was Pastor Jeremiah Wright preaching about social and economic justice at Trinity? I think Beck was referring to this style of social and economic justice when he made those comments. (At least that’s what he said) It’s not respectable to quote someone out of context. (Wallis) Nevertheless, Beck should follow the mission statements of his Mormon faith; one of which is to care for the poor. He also fails to measure his comment’s which is why I’m not a big fan of his.

Also, I’m not a big fan of talking points….they kind of take away the heart of a conversation.

My concern isn’t really about Mr. Beck. My concern is about those who forget that first and foremost he is a TV personality and an entertainer. He makes a living, and earns money for his network, by being argumentative, controversial, opinionated and loud. I’m grateful to live in a country where folks like Glenn Beck can speak their minds, and entertain, freely without fear of arrest or persecution. And, frankly, that's show business!

However, I increasingly find Christians who find it far easier to quote Mr. Beck (and those of like ilk) to reinforce certain beliefs or stances about social issues, religion, politics, you name it, than they have ever been capable of quoting scripture to do the same. Just not quite sure I’m ready to trade out the Gospel of Jesus for the gospel of Beck.

I'm reading a book now by Father Richard Rohr titled "The Naked Now: Learning to See as the Mystics See." It is one of two books I'd hand out to people wanting to figure out what faith in Christ is about. Anyway, it centers around the dualistic mind (either-or, win-lose, liberal-conservative), its dominance in our world and how it hinders us from seeing reality as it is (using our "Third-eye") and hearing God's persistent voice.

There is one passage where he refers to 1 Corinthians 3:1-2 "Brothers, I could not address you as spiritual but as worldly—mere infants in Christ. I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for it. Indeed, you are still not ready." and positions that "To stay too long in infantile religion leaves you vulnerable to being easily scandalized, prone to oppositional thinking, defensive, and generally unable to be inclusive, conversational, and respectful with those outside your small circle."

I believe that the church has largely failed to wean its flock from milk and get it to eat meat. It has been so preoccupied for so long with defining faith in Christ as an intellectual assent and with salvation in which the future is reduced to a reward and punishment system that even its pastors and priests are never weaned from milk and taught to see things in the moment as God sees them. Glenn Beck is feeding on milk and someone should check to see if it's gone sour :)

Because so many of us have an infantile faith, we choose to live on the rations of hell and it is sad. Mr. Beck, who claims to go to church, has a faith that seems rooted in The Fall where we are cast out of the garden and condemned to eke out an existence by our own hands.

Beck, unfortunately, limits his definition of "social justice" to identify with a particular social movement, i.e. Progressivism, which he claims is a precursor to either communism or socialism. In his defense, history does appear to bear this fact out. However, the call upon the church to work for "social justice" does not, I believe, match with his use of the term, and therefore, his statement to flee such churches is misguided. We all would do well to think wore critically about issues - it was a bonehead statement for Beck to have made.

I live in a better world due to those who came before me and fought for social justice. The African American church blossomed into a powerful instrument of change during the Civil Rights Movement and was at the peak of effectiveness when the focus was clearly outward. It was the power of a church having courage to implement the message of Jesus first sermon (Luke 4:18) that challenged me to uproot my family a year and a half ago. I was motivated and led to become a part of a team focused on the issues of justice for all humanity. I am glad I was obedient.
Just last weekend Ginghamsburg partnered with Omega Baptist Church in Dayton for a special International Women’s Day Celebration. There were two events: a walk of solidarity around the perimeter of Omega Baptist Church to ban violence against women.
And a panel discussion regarding victories for and use of violence against women around the globe and how women can get involved to make a difference in the world. Panelists included Ginghamsburg’s project coordinator Karen Smith, a pastor from the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and a representative from Women Thrive. This is social justice.
Mike keep casting the vision and living out the sermon.

Pastor Brian, GUM is extremely blessed. Thank you for coming. YES, YOU ARE ANOINTED!!!

We are called upon by Him do be just to the poor and needy. This is an inividual or church obligation. It is not a collective obligation which is run by the state. I once heard you say that if all believers tithed all the poor would be cared for. I believe that is what God has in mind, even if tithing is not applicable. I firmly believe that social justice is misleading, and does lead to unpleasant endings. We are responsible to are fellow man, but not in an obtrusive government collective way; there is a difference. History teaches us that communities rallying under the social justice flag have ended in disaster. I believe it is an unfortunate phrase that sounds good, but is really a cover up for corruption and evil. We can feed the poor on our own, and don't need the government telling us how much and when to do it. Just my interpretation of the subject. Obviously I am not a fan of big government.If you think we are having trouble in the churches today, wait until we are told who and what we can worship. Don't think it can happen again? I urge you to take another look at not so distant history. By the way, I read your new book and totally agree with your philosophies, but I am just a novice, trying to learn as much about God from you and other great men who really seem to get it.

I am with you Sam ... millions of people have died in the Ukraine, China, South America, and Europe at the hands of the world's worst madmen under the guise of "social justice". This involves using the power of the state to advance a "progressive" agenda that essentially creates two classes - the elite and the opressed. I believe this was the context in which Beck was speaking (and warning against) but clearly, to suggest this is a widespread problem within the church is just not responsible.

What I love about Ginghamsburg is their adoption of "biblical justice" - using the power of the Word to love on the orphaned, the widowed, and the fatherless. "Social justice" is open for interpretation and one persons meaning can differ from another. "Biblical justice", however, cannot be disputed in its meaning.

Wow, it's amazing what comes out of (so-called) Christian's mouths! I've only caught rare moments of his show (we don't have cable), but it's obvious from his statements that Mr. Beck has never been a victim of social injustice. It's sad to say that one must search out churches to find the few that truly walk the gospel talk. But the rewards for finding and joining with such a church go way beyond the comforts of ones Mr. Beck would recommend.

I would encourage again to Google (Milton Friedman – Greed) and listen to one of the most celebrated pros on this topic.

A key element of social justice is “economic egalitarianism” according to developmental economists. It’s defined as: “a state of economic affairs in which the participants of a society are of equal standing and equal access to all economic resources in terms of economic power, wealth, and contribution. It is the founding principle of various forms of socialism, communalism and cooperative economic organizations.” Let’s not confuse biblical and social justice. I’m guilty of judging the book by its cover in Beck’s case. He’s a complicated man forcing us to analyze those seemingly off the wall comments. Classically defined, social justice is something I’d run (fast) from.

I disagree with your outrage concerning the remarks made by Mr. Beck. The phrases "social justice" and "economic justice" have been the hallmark of Fascism, Nazism and Communism since the early 1900's. These words were used during the 1920's thru the 1950's by all of these groups. Ask the Jews in 1930's Germany or the Poles of the 1940's what "social justice" and "economic justice" meant in their worlds. "Social Justice" was also the name of a news publication of the 1930's written by a Catholic priest. He was anti-semitic and a true believer in facism. "Economic Justice" was used by the communists to persuade the masses to follow them over the cliff. We have modern day examples of this from the 1980's with again the Catholic priests in Central America espousing these same phrases and siding with the communists. It became so bad that the Holy See threatened the priests with excommunication if they did not stop this interference in government affairs. We have a recent example of this with Rev. Wright. He taught Black Liberation Theology. Where did this come from? The Catholic priests of Central America. This explains Father Flager's affiliation with Rev Wright. I cite these recent examples to give some perspective as to Mr. Beck's comments. History does show us that Churches do get involved politically and many times unwittingly. Mr. Beck is sounding the warning to be wary.

A lot of good information. The pattern I'm seeing is that when people are irresponsible overall, it leaves an outcry that the government is supposed to "fix." An example of this is when people don't or can't make ample provision for future ailments, and retirement or when children are not or for some reason cannot be adequately educated (parents do not take the responsibility to oversee or be engaged in the instruction of their children). The situation leaves problems that someone has to deal with. Tada..in steps the government. But, hey they are supposed to somehow fix the problems without being able or willing to mandate policies which include good boundaries. So, then we have a growing number of obligation, and then a need for more government involvement. Then when the money received can't cover the consequences of bad policy then the money has to come from somewhere. Many of us don't begrudge helping the less fortunate, but I think we also want responsible policies to govern the situation. Uh-Oh, but wait...we can't include God, maybe we can just write in some principles based on His ways without really saying their from Him. But wait..we already did that, and somehow the whole thing still got away from us. The slow creep of time, and desensitization.

I agree with Phil's comments 100% Glenn Beck is simply asking us to be wary, pay attention and ask questions. I watch GB's show every day and am very thankful he's on mission to sound the alarm, inform and teach us. I tell others that if you watch GB's show, you'll learn, laugh and cry. Yes, he's an entertainer, but also an informer. Here's what I hear from Glenn Beck almost every day: We have God-given rights, not government-given rights, we should help others less-fortunate than ourselves but that government shouldn't be telling us how or how much, he belives in freedom, the constitution and how this country was established on christian principles. He doesn't believe in big government, government redistribution of wealth, government equalizing income, etc., all of which fall under the "social justice" talk by progressives. Since articles like the one in Denver have come out, here's more from Glenn Beck on his statement at glennbeck.com, article "Glenn hates poor people".

Pastor Hidalgo is right on to plead with Glenn Beck to be more careful with his words when speaking when speaking to americans about their churchgoing practices.

In that episode in which Glenn Beck went after "soical justice churches", he held up a swastika in one hand and a "hammer & sickle" in the other hand. He did this purposely to cause a linkage in people's minds between totalitarianism and christians concerned with caring for the poor and oppressed.

Why do think this is? Maybe because Glenn Beck and Fixednews is in bed with big business fat cats who benefit from keeping large portions of the world's population in poverty?

The american church needs to be more concered with Fair Trade as well. It's an issue that would have been near and dear to the Christ that walked the earth and kicked out the enterprising price-gougers from the temple.

First things first, Glenn Beck is a demagogue. He plays on fears and is a dangerous man. Second, this doesn't mean that he doesn't have some good points. While I do not watch his show, nor did I watch this particular episode - I do recognize what he is talking about. Social Justice, in its pure form, is biblical. As Mike's blog entry states, it is the call of Christ to care for the widow and orphan. However, contemporary association with social justice has been hijacked by certain ideologues who possess a collectivist and anti-business stance. It seems to me that Beck was referring to this hijacked ideological stance on social justice.

Last summer I began to read Jim Wallis' book "God's Politics." It wasn't long until I recognized this as Wallis' politics, not God's. He believes that Democrats should be anti-abortion and the Republicans more collectivist in their views of economic justice. While the former cannot be soundly argued against from a Christian perspective, the latter can as being merely a preference concening the means through which a society takes care of the indigent. It seems to me that why Beck's words bothered some in the church is because they've confused their politics as God's politics, when economic views of social justice (whether it be conservative or liberal) are merely procedural preferences and not mandates from heaven. Unfortunately, it was a wing-nut like Beck who pointed this out.

It is very unfortunate how the "Religous Right" was chastised endlessly for combining the CHurch and politics, yet Liberal Theologists have no problem doing the same. Anyone who has read or listened to Jim Wallis know his politics. Unfortunately, this is the truth of most all religious leaders. After spending some time researching Glenn Beck's views I have to admit I am in agreement with him. Again it is unfortunate, but his comments have been taken out of context. He stated that we as a Nation need to get back to God being the basis of all we do. Personal responsibility as Jesus described does not and should not mean the Government is in charge of "redistributing" from one group to another. Wallis believes the exact opposite. His faith seems shallow becaue he does not feel that Christians can do the work themselves although this is our mandate from Jesus. Wallis mandates wealth redistribution performed by the government. As a Christian I am apalled by this statement. Charity from the heart is true Social Justice, not forced redistribution that Wallis promotes.

I am with Terri and Phil. Glenn Beck is not saying that churches shouldn't help the poor or oppressed. He is saying the opposite. He encourages people to seek God, serve others and most importantly pray for this country. When he talks about "social justice" he is talking about progressivism, communism, and facism. I think he is an intelligent man, knows his history and has shown us where our current leaders what to take this country. I think we all need to pay attention.

Gil Flores: Sir, in your reply, you state "...Glenn Beck and Fixednews is in bed with big business fat cats who benefit from keeping large portions of the world's population in poverty?"

I wonder what brings you to that conclusion. Indeed, my experience (supported by Thomas Sowell, Larry Kudlow et al) is that the proponents of "social justice" and "economic justice"; the very people of whom Beck speaks; are indeed the ones who want to keep large portions of the world's population in poverty by 'giving them a fish' instead of 'teaching them to fish'. In this way, the progressives create a populace which is dependent on the state.

For example: If I'm on the dole, I'm going to keep voting in the folks who keep giving me fish, fearful that if they stop giving me fish, I'll starve, especially if I don't know, or have forgotten how to fish.
This is the downward spiral, or slippery slope of the left: Keep the masses dependent on the state, keep them controlled.

What Beck is railing against is "Liberation Theology", which is a distortion of the Gospel. It puts first and foremost the notion that there needs to be socialistic equality in society, even it it has to be done with violence.

It distorts the Gospel because while, yes, Christians are to be generous and seek to bring care and support to the disadvantaged, our main goal is to bring people the message that God wants to forgive people their sins and eventually to bring them to heaven. Without that, what difference does socio/economic justice make?

What Beck takes exception with is the notion that 'Government' is to redistribute wealth. He believes, as do the Scriptures, that individual believers are to give and share with those in need - not have the government forcibly take from the citizenery and redistribute it. The Gospel speaks of doing these things out of a heart of compassion and concern - NOT by force of law.

Bibical justice is not the same as Social Justice. We should be very watchful of the difference. Is it the care of what Christ expects of us? Is it what government programs promote? I agree with the post of Mike and others. It is freely given, not Goverment mandated. Sometimes unfornately the two get intwined. Be mindful of wolves in sheeps clothing.

Jim Wallis...look up what he believes about redistribution of wealth. Look up how Socialtists and Communists infiltrated the Churches in South America. Don't be fooled by social justice teachings which are not Biblical (did Jesus say give to the State and let the State decide how to distribute it?)

Social justice comes in many forms and from both Christian as well as non-Christian sources. God can use anyone to get something done even those unaware of Him. As Christians though, I think it's important to realize that serving "the least of these" while essential, does not supercede nor replace the essentials of the Christian faith.